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The Axis needed Japan to start a 2nd front to wear the Allies down.  Nonetheless, it didn't work, and Germany, Japan, and Italy still lost.   However, though, what if Japan had never entered?  How much quicker would the Allies have won?  Would it have made a difference?  Could the Allies still have lost despite the fact?
 
RE: World War II Question

Probably the same it just probably would have been Germany that got an atom bomb dropped on them instead. Seems to be Hiroshima the reason that they lost the war. Not much else I could say except that the atom bomb was what ended it.
 
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Probably the same it just probably would have been Germany that got an atom bomb dropped on them instead. Seems to be Hiroshima the reason that they lost the war. Not much else I could say except that the atom bomb was what ended it.
In the alternate scenario, I think the war would have been ended quickly with some full American involvement. Germany would have been crushed before the bomb.    They just didn't have superior forces no matter what it seemed like.  I think the Japanese bogging the Allies down in the east slowed the war considerably.
 
If Hitler had not attacked Russia, if Japan had not attacked America, and if they did not invent Atom bomb, probably history would have been something different.
 
If Hitler had not attacked Russia, if Japan had not attacked America, and if they did not invent Atom bomb, probably history would have been something different.
Hitler attacked Russia because he didn't want to conquer the west anyway. He wanted the east. He only fought the west because they were a block to the "eastern plans".

As for Japan, they didn't want to attack America, but they couldn't get oil from the US, so they wanted America crippled so they could get the oil in Southeast Asia.
 
Hitler attacked Russia because he didn't want to conquer the west anyway. He wanted the east. He only fought the west because they were a block to the "eastern plans".

As for Japan, they didn't want to attack America, but they couldn't get oil from the US, so they wanted America crippled so they could get the oil in Southeast Asia.
There are reasons why that did not happen. But if those things had never happened we would be living in different world. Actually, Americans loved Hitler until he attacked Austria. Hitler was Time Magazine's Person of the year.
 
There are reasons why that did not happen. But if those things had never happened we would be living in different world. Actually, Americans loved Hitler until he attacked Austria. Hitler was Time Magazine's Person of the year.
Yeah, that's funny. Indeed, he was seen as turning Germany around and standing up against Communism. However, though, there were always strong critics and it's surprising Time would have honored him.
 
This is a fascinating counterfactual history question, as Japan's entry into World War II had significant ramifications for both the Axis and Allied powers. Let’s break it down:

If Japan Had Not Entered the War:

  1. No Pearl Harbor & U.S. Entry Delayed:
    • Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor (December 1941) brought the United States into the war, galvanizing American industrial and military might.
    • Without Japan’s aggression, U.S. entry might have been delayed or required a different catalyst. This could have given Germany and Italy more time to consolidate their gains in Europe and North Africa.
  2. Focus on Europe and Africa:
    • The U.S., not distracted by a Pacific campaign, might have concentrated its resources solely on defeating Germany and Italy. This could have accelerated the European theater's conclusion.
  3. Weaker Axis Coordination:
    • Japan’s entrance created a global Axis strategy, forcing the Allies to divide their attention. Without Japan, Germany and Italy would have had fewer coordinated opportunities to pressure the Allies globally.
  4. Soviet Focus on Germany:
    • Japan’s neutrality with the Soviet Union allowed Stalin to shift resources westward to fight Germany. If Japan had entered the war against the USSR instead, it could have significantly weakened Soviet resistance on the Eastern Front.

Would the Allies Have Won Faster?

  • Possibly, Yes: Without the Pacific war, the Allies could have concentrated entirely on Europe. The vast resources committed to fighting Japan (e.g., ships, aircraft, manpower) would have been redirected to Europe, potentially hastening Germany’s defeat.
  • However, Not Necessarily: The European theater depended heavily on factors like the Eastern Front, industrial output, and strategic decisions. A Pacific-free war might have shifted priorities but wouldn’t necessarily have guaranteed a quicker Allied victory.

Would It Have Made a Difference?

  • Impact on Resources and Strategy: Yes, it would have reduced the strain on Allied resources and changed the strategic calculus. Without Japan’s war efforts, the Allies could have redirected their focus and potentially limited the Axis’s capacity for global conflict.
  • Axis Weakness: Germany and Italy still faced overwhelming opposition, including the USSR's immense manpower and the U.S.-UK’s industrial capacity, making Axis victory unlikely even without Japan.

Could the Allies Still Have Lost?

  • Unlikely: The Allies had significant advantages, including industrial capacity, manpower, and coordination. Even without Japan’s entry, the Axis powers were stretched thin, especially as Germany faced a two-front war with the USSR and Western Allies.
  • But Possible: If the U.S. had delayed entry significantly or if Japan had sided with the Allies instead, the Axis might have prolonged the war or achieved more favorable terms. The war's outcome would still hinge on numerous variables, such as the timing of events and leadership decisions.

Conclusion:

If Japan had stayed out, the war likely would have ended sooner, especially in Europe, as the Allies could focus all their resources on defeating Germany and Italy. However, the Axis powers were already disadvantaged strategically, so the likelihood of an Axis victory was low even without Japan’s involvement.
 
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